by "E90M3" (e90m3)
Published 01/11/2017 at 10:04
by "E90M3" (e90m3)
Published 01/11/2017 at 10:04
Tags: green cars
STARS: 12
Why isn’t green a more popular choice?
I would prefer a Benz in this shade.
BMW used to offer this shade on the E90, but did away with it after the facelift. I actually really like it. They went to this shade of green, which I’m not that much of a fan.
At least someone shares my views, that might be my favorite color I’ve seen on the M3. Green has been my favorite color as far as I can remember.
I like this as well, too bad it had to be ordered an individual color.
Seems you can get a green F82 as well, but once again has to be ordered as an individual color.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
01/11/2017 at 10:07, STARS: 0
I’ve got two green vehicles and another one that’s greenish gold. One of them is going to stop being green, but I don’t think I’m part of the problem, per se.
"S65" (granthp)
01/11/2017 at 10:10, STARS: 2
YOU ALWAYS GET THE WRONG GREENS
"HONDAD" (hondad)
01/11/2017 at 10:11, STARS: 3
I love green cars too, and wish there were more of them. But I think the reason why is that shades of green really tend to be era-specific and can negatively date a car. Maybe it hurts their resale value and that’s why people stay away. But I wouldn’t let that stop me. I’ll always take color over some boring neutral shade.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:12, STARS: 0
Aren’t most of your cars older than you are? I’ll be honest, I have no idea what you DD.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:14, STARS: 0
Negative, while that Jag does look really good, I’m prefer a darker green to the bright ones. Some people do like it though.
"The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock" (jukesjukesjukes)
01/11/2017 at 10:15, STARS: 0
"PotbellyJoe and 42 others" (potbellyjoe)
01/11/2017 at 10:15, STARS: 0
Green is the absolute worst color for a road-going car. I am on board with BRG on British marques, but it’s wholly unacceptable on any other.
/rant
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:16, STARS: 1
I agree that certain shades can date a car. I think you’re right about a lot of people do avoid the color and go for a more neutral one for resale value. Ironically making the odd colored ones more rare and possibly more desirable. I would pay slightly more for a car that isn’t silver or black.
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
01/11/2017 at 10:17, STARS: 3
I want everything in BRG.
"Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78)
01/11/2017 at 10:17, STARS: 1
Incubus once told us we’d have to wait around until 2012 AD for a certain shade of green, but I’m still seeing fewer and fewer green options. (18 of my 22 driving years have been in green cars).
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:18, STARS: 2
Me too.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:19, STARS: 2
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
01/11/2017 at 10:19, STARS: 0
I DD an ‘87 Benz, which is the only thing I own that is younger than me, and only barely. It is not green. The rest of my stable is ‘59, ‘63, ‘63, ‘66. The two oldest are green...
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:20, STARS: 0
I thought you had a Benz for some reason, I guess I was correct. It’s a W124 300D, right?
"RT" (rt-p)
01/11/2017 at 10:20, STARS: 1
Don’t forget British Racing Green…
…you could call it a sub-lime shade~
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
01/11/2017 at 10:21, STARS: 0
Yep. With an odometer that broke at 319,640 eons ago.
"Chariotoflove" (chariotoflove)
01/11/2017 at 10:21, STARS: 2
I agree that more green would make the world a better place. I the only thing I can think is that people have widely divergent opinions on which green looks good, and that makes it difficult for an automaker to choose which to sell. It’s not as much of a “safe” color as others.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:21, STARS: 4
That Db7 Zagato looks blue
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:24, STARS: 1
Only unreliable part on the car. Clock still ticking? I’ve got a clock I took from a W124 Benz, still works. Facelifted W124, but still a W124.
"BeaterGT" (beatergt)
01/11/2017 at 10:24, STARS: 1
The best is the Lotus Carlton dark green! Ooh or the Green C7s.
"facw" (facw)
01/11/2017 at 10:26, STARS: 1
As an aside, how horrible of an idea would it be to buy a first gen XK? They aren’t that expensive, and what could possible go wrong with buying a 15-20 year old British car?
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
01/11/2017 at 10:26, STARS: 0
green-ish
was green:
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
01/11/2017 at 10:27, STARS: 0
My first car was green, as was my first truck. Unsurprisingly they were both 90s Toyotas... and they both had gold accents.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:28, STARS: 0
I think for the Focus Ford went back to their 90s catalog of paints.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:28, STARS: 1
Green and gold works on some cars. Toyota actually does a pretty good green.
"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile)
01/11/2017 at 10:38, STARS: 1
Can confirm, clock works.
"fintail" (fintail)
01/11/2017 at 10:39, STARS: 0
That M4 gold-green though, I think the shade is called “douchecanoe”.
Years before I was born, my grandpa bought a green Chrysler. Green on green, green everywhere. It was like this, nicknamed “the tank”:
There should be more green interiors, too.
"jimz" (jimz)
01/11/2017 at 10:40, STARS: 2
because anything which isn’t white, black, or silver/gray sits on the dealer lot too long for their liking.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:41, STARS: 0
Which sucks, but I do get it.
"Rico" (ricorich)
01/11/2017 at 10:44, STARS: 1
I just saw an E300 yesterday in Piedmont Green which looks quite nice with a light interior:
"MarquetteLa" (marquettela)
01/11/2017 at 10:47, STARS: 3
Green cars are the best! Here’s mine. :)
"Svend" (svend)
01/11/2017 at 10:48, STARS: 2
Green is a lovely colour.
"Cash Rewards" (cashrewards)
01/11/2017 at 10:48, STARS: 1
I had just gotten my Cooper back k in 2005 and was driving with my wife (gf at the time) and saw one of these in some other color. I said “why anyone would get a British sports car in anything but BRG is beyond me”. Her reply: “says the guy in a blue mini”.
“Goddamn it, how did you let this happen? Why didn’t you stop me?”
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:50, STARS: 3
Pictured: 4 cars we didn’t get in the US.
"Tripper" (tripe46)
01/11/2017 at 10:52, STARS: 0
Greens muh favorite color, cars and otherwise.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:55, STARS: 1
Same here.
"jvirgs drives a Subaru" (jvirgs)
01/11/2017 at 10:56, STARS: 0
Because, unless it’s Mopar Key Lime, green is an ugly color on a vehicle.
Fight me.
"MPA" (MPA)
01/11/2017 at 10:59, STARS: 3
I love my orange FiST, but Green Envy was my 2nd choice
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 10:59, STARS: 0
I don’t see many in that color, actually come to think of it, I’m not sure the last time I saw one in that color.
"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr)
01/11/2017 at 11:03, STARS: 0
If I could’ve gotten Thermo-Tect Lime Green on a US-spec Prius, I would have:
Instead, I had to settle for Hypersonic Red, because that green is a JDM-only color.
"HONDAD" (hondad)
01/11/2017 at 11:05, STARS: 1
Yeah, me too! I waited quite a while before buying my current car until I could find it in blue.
"marshknute" (marshknute)
01/11/2017 at 11:06, STARS: 3
Enzo Ferrari’s personal 400 Superamerica was painted in this lovely shade of green, but he subsequently had the color palette destroyed so nobody could copy it.
"Michael Woyahn" (michaelwoyahn)
01/11/2017 at 11:06, STARS: 1
Your Camry was identical to my family’s 92 Camry. Same color, same wheels, same pin stripes, same gold package. The only difference is yours had a spoiler. We got rid of ours probably around 6 years ago. It finally died after being passed down through two high schoolers 230,000 miles later. I think it burned up all its oil and the last owner never checked it. I have some good memories growing up in that car, including being in my first car accident in that car (my mom was driving).
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
01/11/2017 at 11:09, STARS: 1
Truth.
"HONDAD" (hondad)
01/11/2017 at 11:09, STARS: 0
Always loved Honda’s Green Tea Metallic on the CR-V (my Mom had one for years).
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 11:09, STARS: 1
Then you would’ve been mad JDM tyte, yo. At least you didn’t settle for a boring color.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 11:10, STARS: 4
he subsequently had the color palette destroyed so nobody could copy it.
Sounds about par for the course for Enzo.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 11:11, STARS: 0
You don’t see many in that color.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 11:13, STARS: 0
What do you drive?
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
01/11/2017 at 11:14, STARS: 0
It was a good first car. It was cheap reliable, slow, and boring. I still managed to get in trouble with it, but a lot less than I would have if i a fast, sportier car. I killed mine at about 185,000 the trans lost reverse, which was probably just the linkage, but I wanted a manual transmission car so I used that as an excuse to buy something else.
"Pyrochazm" (pyrochazm)
01/11/2017 at 11:30, STARS: 1
I’m with you on the green.
"Michael Woyahn" (michaelwoyahn)
01/11/2017 at 11:57, STARS: 1
Yeah, that’s pretty much everything you want in a first car! It was supposed to be my sister’s first car, but it needed a lot of brake work so my parents just called it quits and sold it. I think it was partially an excuse to buy something else too, for my dad at least. I guess since 90's Toyotas last so long you have to find an pay excuse you can to get rid of them haha!
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 12:11, STARS: 1
Dark green kind of went out of style in the late 90s. Aside from white, a dark green is the only color I’d choose for an ordered car... When I get a truck intended for off-road use, it’ll probably be a dark forest green if it is available in that color.
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 12:15, STARS: 0
Is white that popular? I know that silver/grey are still excessively popular, followed by black.
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 12:16, STARS: 0
That color on the Focus is so minty.
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 12:17, STARS: 0
BRG is about the lightest green I really enjoy on cars...
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 12:17, STARS: 0
This. So much this.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
01/11/2017 at 12:18, STARS: 0
so fresh so clean?
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 12:18, STARS: 0
A Mini gets a pass. It’s not a sports car and is barely British anymore. It’s a Mini in name only.
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 12:21, STARS: 1
It depends...
Are you good with a wrench?
Do you need your car to be even marginally dependable?
Do you have AAA Premier?
If your answer to any of these questions is “No”, you probably shouldn’t buy one.
"jimz" (jimz)
01/11/2017 at 12:23, STARS: 0
https://www.kbb.com/car-advice/articles/best-color-to-buy/
"RT" (rt-p)
01/11/2017 at 12:25, STARS: 2
Yep, I posted that pic when it was very sunny outside, couldn’t see the images I posted very well. xP
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 12:28, STARS: 0
According to that, white only leads in Trucks/SUVs/Minivans, which is probably due to fleet sales (for some reason, fleet vehicles are almost always white).
This article is really old, too. 15+ years.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/11/2017 at 12:29, STARS: 1
I agree
"jimz" (jimz)
01/11/2017 at 12:31, STARS: 0
I wasn’t trying to say that was the order of their popularity, it’s just the order I typed them out.
"SPAMBot - Horse Doctor" (spambot2002)
01/11/2017 at 12:47, STARS: 0
I am doing my part!
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 12:50, STARS: 0
Is your Miata green?
"Cash Rewards" (cashrewards)
01/11/2017 at 13:07, STARS: 0
The British bit I’ll agree with, but that sports car bit is nonsense. When those things came out, the supercharged ones in particular, they were dominant at scca autocross. To the point where they had to reclassify them out of G stock with GTIs and civic Si and into D with WRXs.
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 13:21, STARS: 0
But none of the cars they were classed with were sports cars, either.
I do think the earlier Minis looked really good in BRG. Back when I was contemplating a new car in 2007 (didn’t end up actually buying one until 2015), my dream was a Mini Cooper S in BRG with white stripes, because it would be awesome.
"Flyboy is FAA certified insane" (flyboy396)
01/11/2017 at 13:26, STARS: 0
Agree. Even though my shade of grey is still available on the 7-series, I like this green and the mint green available on the e23
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 13:28, STARS: 1
That suits that car well. What is the shade on your E23 called?
"Flyboy is FAA certified insane" (flyboy396)
01/11/2017 at 14:04, STARS: 1
Graphite metallic, I believe. I’ll check the paint sticker after work.
"Cash Rewards" (cashrewards)
01/11/2017 at 14:35, STARS: 0
I was looking at what the dealer had, and it was only BRG with black, which was far inferior to the white stripes and roof. But that first gen was great in green with white.
As for sports cars, I’m willing to call hot hatches and their peers sports cars, especially the better ones, as opposed to “sporty” cars like the TC and modern eclipse. The GTI and Si can actually get it done on track. But to each his own!
"Cash Rewards" (cashrewards)
01/11/2017 at 14:35, STARS: 0
I was looking at what the dealer had, and it was only BRG with black, which was far inferior to the white stripes and roof. But that first gen was great in green with white.
As for sports cars, I’m willing to call hot hatches and their peers sports cars, especially the better ones, as opposed to “sporty” cars like the TC and modern eclipse. The GTI and Si can actually get it done on track. But to each his own!
"SPAMBot - Horse Doctor" (spambot2002)
01/11/2017 at 15:11, STARS: 0
Miata is gray but the VW is green. I thought I had a picture saved on my desk top but can’t find it :/
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 15:16, STARS: 0
Ah, I didn’t realize the VW was green.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 15:17, STARS: 1
Just pull one from an old post haha
"HONDAD" (hondad)
01/11/2017 at 16:19, STARS: 0
An ‘05 Acura TSX
"HONDAD" (hondad)
01/11/2017 at 16:20, STARS: 1
No, they’re not as common.
"E90M3" (e90m3)
01/11/2017 at 16:20, STARS: 0
Acura does do a nice blue.
"HONDAD" (hondad)
01/11/2017 at 16:22, STARS: 1
Yeah, they actually had 3 blues to choose from in the first gen TSX! Kind of crazy. I got the “Meteor Silver” which is a light, steel blue.
"SPAMBot - Horse Doctor" (spambot2002)
01/11/2017 at 19:36, STARS: 1
It’s a silvery green but I’m counting it! This is actually funny timing. On my way to work yesterday I started counting cars that were not white/black/gray. Probably only 20 or 30. Most where dark red or a blue that was close to silver. It’s a shame how boring the average color palette has become. Even the colors like red and blue are so toned down, they might as well be W/B/G. My ideal scenario would be like driving through an acid trip on the way to work. Purples, greens, reds, yellows, real blues, orange, etc. I might not need coffee in the morning that way! At least pony/muscle cars are starting to offer cool colors again. If only people would start buying them...
If this mini rant did not make sense, I apologize. I’ve been writing procedures all day :/
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
01/11/2017 at 19:59, STARS: 1
I can’t comment on the last series of XKs, but I daily an X308 XJ8, which is basically an XK8 on a longer wheelbase.
Basically, I would avoid MY 97-00, as they had Nikasil lined engines that liked to shed. I’ve heard that if they’re still on the road by this point, then they’re probably fine, but I wouldn’t risk it.
‘01s have normal linings, but still have plastic timing chain tensioners that need to be replaced ASAP. In theory, any XK8s on the road should have had that replaced with aluminum by now, but if there isn’t documentation, that needs to be bargained into the price (~$1400). I think by ‘02 you’re golden, and personally, I think the late models (‘03 up?) look substantially better.
Beyond the tensioners, the Jag V8 is ridiculously solid. The real killer of these cars is the transmission. The supercharged cars have a solid transmission, but the N/A cars have one that’s pretty prone to failure.
Other than that, the weaknesses are cooling related. The impellor and thermostat housing are plastic and need to be upgraded to aluminum, or else the car will start blowing hoses (ask me how I know). There’s a ton of aftermarket support, and the parts are under $80, but for the thermostat, you either need the world’s rarest metric crowfoot or you have to drop the engine, so that’s a pain.
For me, by far the biggest expense has been suspension related, but I don’t think the PO of my car ever replaced it. The front shocks are apparently pretty doable, but even hardcore DIYers seem afraid to touch the rears. The control arms are also a huge pain.
I would definitely recommend finding a mechanic nearby who specializes in Jags. They tend to be way too quirky to entrust to a general mechanic.
It’s also worth checking out Jaguarforums.com, as people there are hugely helpful and super obsessive (I can almost guarantee you that for any problem you’d ever have, someone has put together a full write up with photos in a PDF).
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
01/11/2017 at 20:00, STARS: 0
I don’t want to jinx myself here, but I daily a 2001 XJ8 and it’s been ridiculously reliable. Modern Jags are way more reliable than their 80s counterparts.
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 20:31, STARS: 0
I thought the AJ-V8 was notoriously unreliable...
"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats)
01/11/2017 at 20:51, STARS: 0
Quite the opposite, actually. Early engines had Nikasil linings that sucked and plastic timing chain tensioners that liked to break, but beyond that, those engines are ridiculously solid. They debuted in 1997 and are still used in Jags today.
"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 21:29, STARS: 0
I guess I just don’t see them as such due to my FoST. I just see it as a “hot hatch”.
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
01/12/2017 at 06:54, STARS: 1
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
12/20/2017 at 16:40, STARS: 0
That looks a lot like the “green” on th iM. It’s called Spring Green, but in direct sunlight’s its highlighter yellow.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
12/20/2017 at 16:45, STARS: 1
I killed mine, I did my first oil change on it. Except instead of draining the oil I drained most of the transmission fluid. Went to get the car out of the garage and it wouldn’t move, and wasnt running right, because it had 9 quarts of oil in it. In a panic I ran to Autozone and bought a quart of trans stopleak. I got It into reverse and drive on that, but it wouldn’t go into second, and it was blowing smoke out the oil cap. Finally my Dad checked the dipsticks and realized what I had done. I got everything “fixed” but must have done some permanent damage to the trans. A few months later it lost Revers and neutral.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
12/20/2017 at 16:49, STARS: 1
My mom had a 03 Focus Wagon in “light tundra Metallic” it was an awesome car, Manual with the 2.3l Zetec.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
12/20/2017 at 16:51, STARS: 0
Love the top matching the wheels
"MarquetteLa" (marquettela)
12/20/2017 at 17:23, STARS: 1
Thanks! It’s not a perfect match, as I plastidipped the top before I bought the wheels. But the top will need to be re-dipped or painted, so I’m going to try to get a closer match when that happens.