by "HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
Published 01/11/2017 at 01:12
by "HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
Published 01/11/2017 at 01:12
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This car is getting a ton of praise. I love that 4 door liftbacks are a thing, and it makes a great shape. No doubt the silhouette of the car is great. But the details let it down, that tailights look cheap, and the the weird line off the lights... the chrome vent ripped right of a 4 series. The front end is a mess.And the wheels are pretty ugly too.
I wanted to love this car, but the more I look at it the more disappointed I am. At least it look better than th consept it came from.
"djgreenlava" (greenlavaproductions)
01/11/2017 at 01:53, STARS: 0
Tail lights remind me a little of the Dart.
"Amoore100" (amoore100)
01/11/2017 at 03:06, STARS: 1
Agreed. I tried to like it, but it’s really chintzy tbh.
"Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)" (6speedhaven)
01/11/2017 at 03:33, STARS: 1
The taillights scream Maserati Ghibli new gen Dodge Charger.
Headlights scream Hyundai genesis
The reason this car won’t sell is because it’s fucking ugly.
"Chasaboo" (chasaboo)
01/11/2017 at 03:58, STARS: 6
No, it’s good looking, you just don’t know what a good looking car is. It’s okay, it happens to all of us at some time.
"Mercedes Streeter" (smart)
01/11/2017 at 06:59, STARS: 1
I like it. I don’t think it’s pretty either, but that’s fine. It’s clear Kia wanted to stand out in the crowd like most of the Japanese automakers are trying to do right now instead of being like everyone else and making a dialed down design. This is a car that looks like it was designed by a kid.
This car’s failing will not be its design. The K900 looked stunning, yet didn’t sell well. What will determine if this car will sell is if Kia could convince people to pay the price for something with a Kia badge. That’s always been Kia/Hyundai’s issue as of late with selling sports cars and luxury vehicles, breaking people out of the habit of buying something for the badge.
"DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!" (daft-ryosuke)
01/11/2017 at 07:34, STARS: 2
I agree. I really want to like this thing, but the shape is from a Jag, the lights are from a BMW in the front and a Dodge in the back, there are weird cues all over the thing, and it just doesn’t come together. I feel like people are mostly blinded by the fact that it’s a RWD Liftback Kia, which is fine and all, but it’s not pretty by any sense of the word.
Plus, it further confirms that Hyundai/Kia doesn’t know what the hell they’re doing. Why would Kia introduce this when Genesis exists? Also this thing isn’t gonna sell worth shit.
"spanfucker retire bitch" (lelykon)
01/11/2017 at 07:35, STARS: 1
You shut your whore mouth.
"Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)" (rduncan5678)
01/11/2017 at 07:37, STARS: 1
Meh. Probably going to be heavy, it is definitely automatic only, and too many exhaust tips. I was much more excited when this model was supposed to be a BRZ/FRS competitor. But that is an impossible market.
"Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)" (rduncan5678)
01/11/2017 at 07:38, STARS: 0
I really doubt its going to be RWD. Maybe AWD but that is not the same.
"theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil" (theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil)
01/11/2017 at 07:40, STARS: 5
“I really doubt it’s going to be RWD.”
Are you being sarcastic or..?
http://jalopnik.com/the-kia-stinger-gt-is-kias-fantastic-365-hp-rear-wheel-1790949403
"Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)" (rduncan5678)
01/11/2017 at 07:48, STARS: 0
Well this one is contradictory:
http://jalopnik.com/im-worried-no-one-is-going-to-buy-the-2018-kia-stinger-1790997635
"Scott" (merl3noir)
01/11/2017 at 08:42, STARS: 0
I’ll grant you the line off the taillights, especially close up like your picture. But, this car pretty well captures the styling of a lot of popular cars right now. If they have trouble selling it, it’s because it’s a KIA, in a very competitive price point.
"Arrivederci" (arrividerci)
01/11/2017 at 09:32, STARS: 0
I like most of it, but if I was designing it, I would’ve left off that weird line side marker off the taillights and that garish side vent. Aside from that, I think it looks pretty darn good.
Of course I’m bummed that it’s automatic-only, and I’ll probably be further bummed when the price of a 3.3L TT V6 is over $40k.
"for Michigan" (formichigan)
01/11/2017 at 09:41, STARS: 6
Not it isn’t. It says the car will be RWD or AWD.
"BeaterGT" (beatergt)
01/11/2017 at 09:46, STARS: 0
And yet it still looks better than a Focus RS
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
01/11/2017 at 10:11, STARS: 0
Yeah, the Stinger GT4 concept was much better, and I think made more sense for Kia. Hyundia, and now Genesis have moved up market for the most part. So I don’t get why Kia would do the same thing. It would make more sense to have Kia be the fun on a budget brand.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
01/11/2017 at 10:16, STARS: 0
I do think it looks good. Like a current gen Camry looks good. But it’s being held up on a mantle as a beautiful car, and at a glance it is. The shape is great, I love the trim that flows from the font of the A pillars, over the roof, and down the C pillars, like an Optima. But it’s by no means pretty. The front and rear ends don’t even look like they are attached to the same car. They look like they were designed by two different people who never met.
"StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8" (stndibnz1)
01/11/2017 at 10:16, STARS: 0
Thank you! It just looks off. That back end is just wrong, something off about it. The way the taillights wrap around is terrible too.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/11/2017 at 13:24, STARS: 3
No it isn’t pretty. Neither is the other popular 4 door liftback.
They both have unattractive front ends,where Tesla went as flush and boring as they could, Kia decided to make it ugly and too busy with too many fake vents, but I do approve of the Kia’s side profile more. It touches more on a coupe shape than the Tesla does.
I would much rather have the Aston Martin Rapide. It is a liftback that looks great, has an amazing interior, and the best motor of them all.
"S65" (granthp)
01/11/2017 at 13:31, STARS: 1
But reliability
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
01/11/2017 at 13:35, STARS: 2
I think the Model S looks great.
"kiwi_matt" (kiwi_matt)
01/11/2017 at 13:41, STARS: 0
Well it’s not a sports car. Its a tourer, made for the highway, not the track.
"Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)" (rduncan5678)
01/11/2017 at 13:49, STARS: 0
The automatic only part isnt the main point. The weight is really. I don’t like heavy cars, period. Obviously I will never buy new anyways so my opinion is irrelevant. I am all about what will be interesting used in 10+ years.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/11/2017 at 13:50, STARS: 0
I will reliably give this answer every time, “I’ll never drive a Kia, the Tesla is ugly AF, and I’d buy the AM.”
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/11/2017 at 13:50, STARS: 0
Well you are wrong.
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
01/11/2017 at 13:52, STARS: 2
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"Eric @ opposite-lock.com" (theyrerolling)
01/11/2017 at 13:52, STARS: 1
The Rapide, at a glance, looks like a coupe. I missed the rear doors entirely until the picture with them all open, then I had to go back and realized that it had rear doors all along.
"kiwi_matt" (kiwi_matt)
01/11/2017 at 13:58, STARS: 0
The extra weight also makes sense for a highway cruiser, as long as it has enough power to move that extra mass. This is the direction all of these cars are going.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/11/2017 at 14:00, STARS: 0
No I know, some people like them. It isn’t really that they are ugly, but the are boring and not in an understated way, but it is like an expensive Camry. Other than the insane speed, it does literally nothing for me and then they take away the throaty engine noises. They are just Meh to me.
"Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)" (rduncan5678)
01/11/2017 at 14:05, STARS: 0
I know that is the direction these cars are going, which is what upsets me lol. Sure power to weight is important but that doesnt help in the handling department. Thankfully tire technology has gotten so good and suspension technology has advanced enough to still find a sweet spot for a good driving experience. Weight is just an engineering factor that is difficult/expensive to combat.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/11/2017 at 14:13, STARS: 1
That is 100% how a high preformance 4 door GT car should be.
"DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!" (daft-ryosuke)
01/11/2017 at 14:18, STARS: 1
About a year ago I’d have yelled at you for calling the Model S ugly. Now that I see them more often, I’m inclined to agree. Especially after that god awful update that took the black grille away
And ya’ll mind if I praise the RS7?
"DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!" (daft-ryosuke)
01/11/2017 at 14:21, STARS: 1
You chose the ugliest variant of the Model S to back that up?
"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
01/11/2017 at 14:22, STARS: 0
Huh?
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/11/2017 at 14:24, STARS: 1
Not at all!!! I love the RS7. If it wasn’t for the RS6 C6 Avant, then that would be my favorite Audi
"DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!" (daft-ryosuke)
01/11/2017 at 14:27, STARS: 0
I’m not an Audi person by any means, but a few, like the RS7, the C5 RS6, the R8, and the RS2 are obvious exceptions.
"DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!" (daft-ryosuke)
01/11/2017 at 14:28, STARS: 0
It’s the base model variant of the ugly facelift. It’s not the most flattering variant of the Model S out there.
"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
01/11/2017 at 14:32, STARS: 0
But why would you pick the C5 over the C6? You’d rather have the V8 Bi-Turbo (444 hp, 428 lb-ft) over the V10 Bi-Turbo (580hp, 482 lb-ft)?
"Rico" (ricorich)
01/11/2017 at 14:35, STARS: 2
When I see the facelifted version in my rear view mirror I always think it looks so cool and futuristic.
"B/Xmrrmvr" (davidedumass)
01/11/2017 at 14:45, STARS: 0
It looks like a Jag though.
"B/Xmrrmvr" (davidedumass)
01/11/2017 at 14:49, STARS: 0
This car is getting a ton of praise.
The majority of FP comments and Oppo posts that aren’t from Wobbles say otherwise.
"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo)
01/11/2017 at 15:20, STARS: 0
I was just thinking the Jalopnik articles and videos. Saying it’s a beautiful, or gorgeous car. But it’s not, it is at best an okay looking car.
"IanZ - limited-slip indifferential" (ianz-limited)
01/11/2017 at 17:04, STARS: 2
It’s not pretty, but it doesn’t need to be. It’s striking, and I think it’s very handsome. That line off the taillights is a clever way to hide the required reflector strips, I believe. And even if it didn’t look good, it would still be better than an ugly orange thing slapped on. Which unfortunately is what they did with the headlights.
Oh, and can everyone please direct your “Oh, X looks like Y and Z” comments toward me? Because you’re always wrong and honestly it’s a little frustrating.