by "G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
Published 01/07/2017 at 16:56
by "G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
Published 01/07/2017 at 16:56
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My “record” is 3 weeks. The whitewalls my car came with only lasted three weeks of daily driving and two autocross sessions before they were pretty much bald. Granted, they were a bit old (2 months until due), but still. Anyone else done worse?
"jimz" (jimz)
01/07/2017 at 17:07, STARS: 0
The BF Goodrich KDW2s that came with my SRT-4 lasted about 30,000 miles. Good performance tire, but noisy as hell especially when they were culled near the end.
"Jarrett - [BRZ Boi]" (jarrettw)
01/07/2017 at 17:22, STARS: 1
I get a sidewall puncture in one without fail every 6 months. Does that count?
"Klaus Schmoll" (klausschmoll)
01/07/2017 at 17:22, STARS: 0
Please define “2 months until due”. We aren’t exactly talking about groceries here.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 17:23, STARS: 0
Good enough for me.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 17:25, STARS: 0
Tires actually work sort-of like groceries, inasmuch as they have a date after which they will soon rot and become unsafe for use (for tires, this is normally 10 years after the date of manufacturing).
"Echo51" (echo2047)
01/07/2017 at 17:27, STARS: 0
5 year limit here in denmark for trailer/caravan use, also general rule of thumb. Limit is not a set date, and you should always check your tyres for dry rot and other faults. i’ve had a winter set that were... 12, maybe 14 year old and they’ve been stored properly, so no dry rot, therefor still safe to use
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 17:27, STARS: 0
30,000 miles isn’t too abysmal for something of that performance category and treadwear rating. RIP KDW2, your iconic design will be missed.
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
01/07/2017 at 17:29, STARS: 0
Crusty is blessed with Ford’s TTB front suspension. I put a new-used (1500 miles on them) set of tires on him 13,000 miles ago and the fronts are lunched. Even after a full front end rebuild and alignment.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 17:30, STARS: 0
Huh. Most tire manufacturers in North America have been saying that 10 years is the upper limit for a little over a decade now. There are cases where you can use them for a couple years longer than that (if they were safely stored and aren’t showing any signs of dry rot, tread separation, or sidewall cracking), but 10 years usually the norm.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 17:31, STARS: 0
Yeesh. That’s no bueno.
"gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee" (gogmorgo)
01/07/2017 at 17:41, STARS: 1
My parents always bought winter tires during spring clearance and ran them all year, usually for a couple years, before replacing them. We’d typically get 50-60k miles out of a set. But one summer we road tripped through the Dakotas, Wyoming, Yellowstone to Portland, OR. The heat destroyed the nearly new tires with only about 10,000 miles of highway driving on them. Winter tires cannot into summer.
"Echo51" (echo2047)
01/07/2017 at 17:42, STARS: 0
It’s all just a guideline, same as the best before date, just more gross to ignore that
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 17:43, STARS: 0
Except you can’t be fined for eating slightly expired food.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 17:44, STARS: 1
Yup.
"jimz" (jimz)
01/07/2017 at 17:44, STARS: 0
Oh I’m not complaining, I knew they’d be relatively short lived just by the UTQG.
When I got the car, girl at work looked at it and said “wow, your tires look like flames! I’ve never seen that before!”
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 17:48, STARS: 0
Yup. Those and the old Fuzion ZRis used to be the coolest tires on the street, at least from a visual standpoint.
"jvirgs drives a Subaru" (jvirgs)
01/07/2017 at 17:56, STARS: 0
The OEM Yokos on my Dart lasted exactly 17,000 mi before needing replacement.
"ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com" (ita97)
01/07/2017 at 18:01, STARS: 3
Less than a day, two track sessions, (practise and qualifying), on the racecar. Call it less than two hundred miles on a new to me track that featured a chicane immediately preceded by a quick, banked higher speed left-right set of corners. it took me most of the weekend to find a line and braking point into the chicane that was both fast and didn’t involve locking an inside front tire under weight transfer at some point on the way in. By the race on Sunday I was down to the last four tires I had that weren’t corded from that brake zone. The car looked a bit funny with mismatched wheels, tire sizes and models of tires themselves (205/55/R15 hankooks up front and some 195/50R14 Kuhmo victoracers on the rear, but they were the last four tires with rubber on them. Funny enough, during that race session with an I’ll handling car I finally clicked with that track and starting putting up fast and consistent lap times while not killing the tires.
"Klaus Schmoll" (klausschmoll)
01/07/2017 at 18:04, STARS: 1
Well, it’s not like they explode the day they “expire”. So you can’t actually set a date. Dry rot happens from day one. It’s just common sense to replace them after some time even if there is tread left. I would say 8 years is a good benchmark, not 10.
More like other rubber parts like timing chains you are just pushing your luck after a certain age, but you could be save for years. Or not!
This is what happened to my 626 hatchback when a very old winter tire decided it didn’t want to live anymore on the Autobahn. I somehow managed to coast onto the shoulder and wait for a tow truck. (Pic was taken after it was towed and spare was put on.)
I picked up the missing part of the bumper cover and it was re-attached dorifto style with a drill and zip ties. I even replaced those loose parts of the wiring harness but the airbag warning light never stopped.
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
01/07/2017 at 18:14, STARS: 1
It sucks and it’s why I won’t buy new tires. Aligning the Twin I Beam and Twin Traction Beam suspension is a dark magic. Very few can do it right and the ones that can are retiring or dying off.
"Echo51" (echo2047)
01/07/2017 at 18:14, STARS: 0
Do they actually care about tyre age in the US for normal cars? Is that seriously a fineable offense, or just if you piss the officer off enough?
"Matsayz" (matsayz)
01/07/2017 at 18:23, STARS: 1
Need to get winter tires... Colorado ain’t a joke! Although the XJ does great with new Firestone AT’s and they were CHEAP!
"twochevrons" (twochevrons)
01/07/2017 at 18:24, STARS: 1
I distinctly remember going through a set of rear tires on my Rover SD1 in eight months or so. Never tracked it or did burnouts or anything, just drove rather enthusiastically. That car was entertainingly tail-happy.
"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
01/07/2017 at 18:45, STARS: 1
12 months.
"Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition" (realasabass)
01/07/2017 at 18:51, STARS: 0
I had a set of Fuzions mounted on IROC’s on my S-15. They were great.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 18:53, STARS: 0
I’m not sure about America, but in British Columbia you will every so often see “checkpoints” on major highways where you have to pull over so your tires can be checked. If they’re the wrong type or too bald or too old, you’re getting a very hefty fine. While they’re at it, they can ding you for everything from illegally tinted side windows to dirty license plates.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 18:56, STARS: 0
While true, after ten years they will have deteriorated to the point at which their likelihood of failure is significantly higher than on an 8 year old tire. In British Columbia, you encounter tire “checkpoints” every so often, where they’ll pull you over and inspect your tires, and if they’re the wrong type, too bald, or too old, you’ll get a hefty fine.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 18:57, STARS: 0
Jesus.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 18:57, STARS: 0
Tail-happy RWD cars are the best.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 18:58, STARS: 0
That’s a pretty damn good story.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 18:59, STARS: 0
Totally. My buddy had those on his New Edge, and they gripped pretty damn well for a street tire.
"ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com" (ita97)
01/07/2017 at 19:13, STARS: 0
On a good race weekend, a set of tires lasts the weekend on my car. Call it two practise, qualifying and race sessions. On my FWD ITA car, this usually means rotating the tires after every session. Most tracks have more turns in one direction than the other, so that outside front tires takes a beating on a FWD car, so I’m rotating it off that corner after each session. If I’m lucky (and did my part in not abusing them) they won’t be corded after Sunday’s race, which means I can finish them off getting some extra practise in on the Friday afternoon open test day that often precedes an SCCA race weekend at the track.
"Urambo Tauro" (urambotauro)
01/07/2017 at 20:00, STARS: 1
I’ve never gone through tires prematurely on any of my cars. I’ve had a few flats, but they were easily plugged and lasted many more miles.
But I did drive a few work trucks that would go through tires like crazy, simply because my employer kept avoiding alignments.
"vicali" (vicali)
01/07/2017 at 21:23, STARS: 0
You would have to have a serious case of smart mouth to get a ticket for ‘expired’ tires..
I had a friend who got a ticket for no dash light- that was on a f150 with a bad pig, no donut sticker in the back window. The officer was apparently not amused..
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 21:30, STARS: 0
Trust me, the modified car community in Kelowna routinely takes a beating from aggressive CVSE tactics and sometimes seemingly random roadblocks. I’m already ambiguously ethic, I don’t need to be profiled twice.
"alepromakeup96" (alepromakeup96)
01/07/2017 at 21:37, STARS: 1
My and Uly Z4 tires only last 10,000 miles on back. Front good still for longer
"vicali" (vicali)
01/07/2017 at 21:44, STARS: 0
Lol - maybe there is a reason they are targeting the drift missle crews? Could it be the cut springs and welded diffs?
Just saying my family has been driving modified cars through the valley since the 70 when my uncles raced their celicas to Penticton every weekend. My brothers S14 was tastefully modified and well driven and lived in Ktown for 15 years without once being stopped.. maybe they aren’t just picking on you.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 21:52, STARS: 0
It’s not just drift missiles and ratty Hondas anymore, it’s everything now. Middle of last year, they ramped up quotas big time. Doesn’t matter if you’re driving a 3 year old WRX on aftermarket wheels with a 1" drop, a hilariously horrible S13, or even a tastefully modified S197 Mustang with an exhaust that slides nicely below the decibel limit. If it doesn’t look or sound stock, they’re now pulling you.
"vicali" (vicali)
01/07/2017 at 22:07, STARS: 0
They should do bro trucks next..
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/07/2017 at 22:38, STARS: 0
It’s amazing how many people have a lift greater than 10cm on their trucks, yet haven’t bothered to undergo re-inspection. Most of the truck people I know say that they aren’t hassled a lot.
"Justino6969" (justino6969)
01/08/2017 at 22:23, STARS: 0
About 15,000 miles until showing cords. Bent axle + dead suspension.
"G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3" (gbodyman)
01/08/2017 at 22:29, STARS: 0
:(
"Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)" (rduncan5678)
02/03/2017 at 07:26, STARS: 1
I bought a set of wheels with summer tires for $150 for my Miata to use for daily and autox use. Lightly used BFG Sport Comp 2 on some ricey 15x8 zero offset wheels. I ended up using them for about 3 months, drove about 5k miles, and did 6 autox events. Due to my fenders eating the tires through every pot hole, cords were showing in parts of the tires. Somehow managed to sell them to a guy for $180! So I made a profit of $30 somehow out of destroying those tires.