by "Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
Published 01/04/2017 at 20:38
by "Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
Published 01/04/2017 at 20:38
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Can someone explain to me the price difference between this and a bottle of, say, ginger ale of the same brand? Seltzer water, which consists of water and carbon dioxide, is 89 cents for a two-liter bottle, whereas a two-liter bottle of ginger ale, which has flavorings, colorings, sweeteners (and who knows what other chemicals) in addition to the the water and carbon dioxide, is only 75 cents and is frequently discounted further. The seltzer should be cheaper to make because of fewer ingredients (the same as the base for the other) yet it costs more ?
It’s amazing how much extra it costs to actually be a little healthier...
"functionoverfashion" (functionoverfashion)
01/04/2017 at 20:47, STARS: 2
How about going into your local convenience store and trying to buy 12 bottles of water. How much is a 12oz water, $1.50? Let’s even say it’s $1.00, so $12 for 12.
Now in the same store, grab a 12 pack of Light Beer, let’s just use Bud Light. Probably $9.99/12 pack, right? It should be anyway.
So.... take some water, add hops, yeast, malt, brew, whatever they do. Then market it with some of the most expensive ad spots on TV like the Super Bowl. And sell it to me for less than the water. In an aluminum can, no less!
I know, I know,
reasons.
But it’s fun to point out.
"crowmolly" (crowmolly)
01/04/2017 at 20:57, STARS: 0
I dunno, maybe differences in carbonation level?
"AestheticsInMotion" (aestheticsinmotion)
01/04/2017 at 21:13, STARS: 1
Water and carbon dioxide are the most expensive ingredients by a fairly significant amount, so adding the other flavorings and colorings actually reduces total cost of ginger ale compared to the simpler seltzer water.
(just bullshitting, I have no idea haha)
"Tekamul" (tekamulburner)
01/04/2017 at 21:24, STARS: 2
Free market, man.
Neither costs anywhere near that much, but ‘healthy’ people pay more for less.
"LongbowMkII" (longbowmkii)
01/04/2017 at 21:31, STARS: 2
As if drinking seltzer water wasn’t punishment enough. Smh
"gmporschenut also a fan of hondas" (gmporschenut)
01/04/2017 at 21:33, STARS: 0
"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
01/04/2017 at 22:16, STARS: 1
I like it with a little squirt of lemon or lime juice for flavor. I only drink soda on occasion, usually a Mexican Coke at my favorite taco joint - mmm, real sugar. I’m also a cheap bastard and hate paying the ridiculous markups on soft drinks at restaurants, nor do I want the huge servings that most restaurants provide. This also saves money for good Scotch and Bourbon, fine wines and quality beer (the PBR in my fridge is for guests with less refined palates that don’t like my usual lambics and stouts)
Although I don’t have first-hand experience on this matter, I’ve found that management in the transportation industry tends to frown on drinking during working hours. I don’t know how many times I’ve grabbed a beer whilst at home for lunch, bottle opener in hand, before realizing that I have to return to the office.
"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
01/04/2017 at 22:22, STARS: 0
Yes, but the basic ingredients are common between the two drinks, so there is no way that the cost of the ginger ale could ever be lower than that of the seltzer due to the additional ingredients necessary to make the ginger ale. The only savings I could see would be in the cost of the label since they probably make more ginger ale than seltzer, but that would be negligible at best.
"DrScientist" (DrScientist)
01/04/2017 at 22:29, STARS: 0
$10 for a TWELVE pack?
jesus.
"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus)
01/04/2017 at 23:02, STARS: 0
High fructose corn syrup is so crap out and cheap that it can actually lower the cost of water
Just guessing
"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
01/04/2017 at 23:14, STARS: 0
I was OK with paying $6 or $7 for a six-pack of my favorite daily drinker, Kraftig, and was surprised to learn that I could buy a 12-pack over at Total Wine for $10. This is cheaper than the $6 PBR buckets over at my favorite local bar.
"gmporschenut also a fan of hondas" (gmporschenut)
01/05/2017 at 00:17, STARS: 0
But there are a lot more costs than just the ingredients. 95% in both bottles is probably water. additional costs include stocking, shipping, storing which if it is less popular means that its not a regular item and may be shipped separate screwing up regular orders.
change over is a huge costs at a plant so if the plant has to shut down to switch product and they make 5000 bottles of seltzer and 50,000 of ginger ale then that cost (of the plant not running) is then divided by only 5000 bottles of seltzer vs the 50k bottles of ginger ale.
the cost of ingredients on that scale are almost negliable. I know a guy who used to be a distributor for an energy drink and their profit margin was 0ver 90%.
"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
01/05/2017 at 00:37, STARS: 1
You do bring up some valid points. Considering how many flavors they have to make, some more popular than others, there is more downtime between batches of different flavors not to mention the cleaning between batches and the additional inventory. I would expect these extra expenses, even if spread over additional bottles, would make the manufacturing costs of sweetened drinks even higher.
I figure it’s more about marketing than anything else. Like the 90%+ markup on energy drinks, which are more about image than substance, people that buy seltzer are probably more likely to use it in smaller quantities (with scotch perhaps) and thus it is perceived as a “luxury” product, if you will.
"functionoverfashion" (functionoverfashion)
01/05/2017 at 09:09, STARS: 0
Yeah, not craft beer, certainly. That’s $9/12 pack minimum, and up from there. But $10/12 light beers? Definitely. A 30 of Coors Light at my grocery store is $19.