by "Birddog" (maintmgt)
Published 01/04/2017 at 01:10
by "Birddog" (maintmgt)
Published 01/04/2017 at 01:10
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I need to inquire. A carbbed GLH (110 HP) is a fairly rare find. I just worry about underbody rot. I’ve run across a few L bodies with great bodywork but underbodies that are just unusable.
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"Jobjoris" (Jobjoris)
01/04/2017 at 02:01, STARS: 0
You need it. Totally.
"Amoore100" (amoore100)
01/04/2017 at 02:10, STARS: 0
Oh lord. I need it.
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
01/04/2017 at 03:46, STARS: 1
My grandpa had one, yellow with shower head wheels. He bought it after the sales guy took him for a ride around a light pole in a parking lot. Faster and faster they went until he yelled, “I’ll buy it!”
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
01/04/2017 at 04:02, STARS: 0
Shower head wheels?
I love my L bodies. So overlooked. Dodge literally wrote the book on “hot hatches” in the 80s. A book few bothered to read. My old GLH-T clone was good for low 13s to high 12s on drag radials using mostly junkyard parts.
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
01/04/2017 at 04:24, STARS: 2
Showerheads.That’s what we called them.
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
01/04/2017 at 04:31, STARS: 1
Ah! We call them Swiss Cheese wheels.
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
01/04/2017 at 04:41, STARS: 1
Either way, I’ve always liked them.
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
01/04/2017 at 05:13, STARS: 0
One of the best wheels of the 80s for sure!
"Svend" (svend)
01/04/2017 at 06:12, STARS: 1
I think we got that in the U.K. as the Talbot Sunbeam.
The Horizon was a basic regular car with a 1.4 engine or similar but we also got performance versions.
Then the Lotus Sunbeam Talbot with a 2.2, 180bhp.
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Due for completion early 2017 - Early investment allows buyer to add optional spec.
ABOUT THIS CAR
This fantastic example was originally supplied in Moonstone Blue and is currently undergoing a full bare metal restoration. The shell has been dipped, painted and waxoyled and is being reassembled to MSA historic rally specification. The car will be eligible for many historic rally events.
Specification: Skip Brown engine (SB cams, ported head, Cosworth pistons). All running gear powder coated and refurbished. All new bushes and bearings. Adjustable dampers. Adjustable coil-overs up front. Rear disc conversion. 4 pot frontt calipers. MSA weld in rollcage. Plate type LSD rebuilt with new plates and bearings. Loads of new parts e.g.new clutch, laminated screen, tons of spares including the original interior etc.
The shell was rebuilt with new sills, and all bad metal has been cut-out and replaced - the arches are alloy, not fibreglass, and the steel floorpan is modified to accept large cross-section wheels. Also supplied is a pair of new corbeau G8s, possibly the coolest ‘70s / ‘80s rally bucket seats in the world.
The car is an original Lotus on a “DAC” plate (one of the last 150 built).
Prospective buyers may choose from a very impressive specification at £30,000, or add optional specification as they see fit at additional cost. For example, taking power even higher to Group 4 spec is possible, but not for the feint hearted!
ABOUT THE TALBOT SUNBEAM LOTUS
The Chrysler Sunbeam first appeared with three engine variants, 930cc, 1300cc and 1600cc. The sporty end of the market was soon catered for with the 1600cc Ti model with 100bhp and 0-60mph in under 10 seconds - very respectable in the late seventies, but Chrysler knew that this was insufficient to mount a serious challenge in the rallying world against Ford RS Escorts and Vauxhall HS Chevettes.
Chrysler had already spotted the potential of the Sunbeam but needed serious power. Nothing in the Chrysler range was likely to prove adequate. Suddenly an obvious solution presented itself; Lotus had been supplying 2 litre engines to Jensen Healey, who had recently ceased trading. A standard 160bhp 2 litre and a modified version producing over 230bhp were sourced for testing. Testing began in earnest and the car competed in several events where homologation was not required. Andrew Cowan did the competitive driving while Bernard Unett carried out development testing. Lotus subsequently developed their engine into a 2.2 litre unit designated type 911.
The competition engine was initially uprated to 234bhp (later increasing further) and featured 48mm carburettors and a compression ratio of 11:1. Once Talbot took delivery of this they set about re-building it with components of their own choosing Cosworth pistons, for example. To enable these to compete, 400 cars had to be produced to satisfy homologation rules. Chrysler’s ambitions were for a run of 4500 engines, and homologation was achieved for April 1 1979 on the basis of 32 pre-production cars converted by the Service Department - these filled the factory’s service workshops and gave the right impression of progress to the FIA delegates at a time when production cars were not quite ready to roll off the lines.
The Chrysler Sunbeam Lotus was launched at the Geneva Motor Show in March 1979, but deliveries did not start until summer of that year. By this time, Chrysler UK had been sold to the French Peugeot concern who changed the name to the Talbot Motor Company. With the exception of the very first pre-production models, all road cars were officially known as Talbots.
Originally the cars were only available in Embassy Black with broad silver side stripes and grey interior, and the very early cars also boasted twin exit exhaust pipes. For the 1981 model year, Moonstone Blue paintwork became the only available colour, although customers were offered a choice of silver or black stripes.
The Talbot Sunbeam Lotus took part in international rallying from 1979 to 1982 and won the World Championship for Talbot in 1981. Its most famous achievement was at the 1980 Lombard-RAC rally, Britain’s round of the World Rally Championship, where Henri Toivonen became the event’s youngest ever winner and Sunbeam Lotus cars finished 1st, 3rd and 4th - the last time a two-wheel drive car won the RAC.
Sunbeam Lotus works drivers included the late Henri Toivonen, Guy Fréquelin (co-driven by Jean Todt) who narrowly missed out on being the Driver’s World Champion in 1981, Stig Blomqvist, Tony Pond, Andrew Cowan and Jean-Pierre Nicolas. Russell Brookes also competed in a works-built car, privately sponsored by Andrews Heat for Hire. At the end of the 1982 season many of the Talbot team transferred to Paris where their experience contributed to the success of Peugeot-Talbot’s new rally contender, the 205 T16.
Yours for only, cough, ahem, cough, £32,000
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
01/04/2017 at 07:08, STARS: 1
Related. Cousins basically.
I wish Ma Mopar would have kept the Simca/Talbot torsion bar front suspension for the L cars here.
"nafsucof" (galinskiomatic)
01/04/2017 at 07:37, STARS: 1
Can’t believe I didn’t know the first year was a non turbo 2.2
"Deal Killer - Powered by Focus" (dealkiller-ii)
01/04/2017 at 07:48, STARS: 0
So, I shouldn’t feel bad about really liking this car, then?
http://toledo.craigslist.org/cto/5939466009.html
"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
01/04/2017 at 07:57, STARS: 0
Wow, that’s amazing that it still exists.
"RacinBob" (racinbob)
01/04/2017 at 08:09, STARS: 0
Oh, let me recall all the things that broke on my Carbed ‘84 GLH in the 4 years I owned it from ‘86 to ‘89
- shift linkage
- seat tore out
- front wheel bearing every time I autocrossed it.
- Vapor lock when warm
- transmission - Main shaft bearing
- head rocker arm
- door handle failed
I owned two during those years, the first without AC and the second with. Good looking and cheap. Both were just worn out before 100,000 miles. Make sure you find a good mechanic. PS - it warms up at 2000 rpm.
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
01/04/2017 at 08:19, STARS: 0
You shouldn’t! My grandma had one!
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
01/04/2017 at 08:32, STARS: 0
Aren’t the GLHs all fuel injected?
"McMike" (mcmike)
01/04/2017 at 08:34, STARS: 0
We called them Pepperpots
Buddy of mine had one of those (think it was an ‘85) back in the late 80s.
Went pretty good when he could find second. The shifter was terrible.
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
01/04/2017 at 08:35, STARS: 0
Pepperpots. That’s a good one!
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
01/04/2017 at 08:41, STARS: 0
Dodge VW literally wrote the book on “hot hatches” in the 80s.
FTFY
"Deal Killer - Powered by Focus" (dealkiller-ii)
01/04/2017 at 08:50, STARS: 0
The car is so 1980's it hurts. Just to seal the deal, it has a full electronic gauge cluster as well. My wife would fucking kill me if I pulled up in that. Nostalgia is probably better than my memory of early 80's MOPAR’s, however.
"TheRealBicycleBuck" (therealbicyclebuck)
01/04/2017 at 09:20, STARS: 0
Driving one would probably be disappointing. I think they maxed out at 175 hp and being FWD they had issues with torque steer. We’ve come a long way since then.
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
01/04/2017 at 17:43, STARS: 0
84 was na with a carb, 85 introduced the Turbo which was injected.
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
01/04/2017 at 17:45, STARS: 0
I’ve been putzing with these for a quite awhile. Mostly turbo cars though.
"Birddog" (maintmgt)
01/04/2017 at 17:52, STARS: 0
175 stock yes. My last Omni was clicking off mid 12 seconds on DRs and there are plenty of guys in 11s, 10s and even a couple in the 9s. That ain’t happening on 175 hp.
"SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie" (sidewaysondirt)
01/04/2017 at 18:01, STARS: 0
Wow. Weird.